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PhysicsEpisode 16

Power-to-X — Turning Surplus Wind and Solar into Ammonia.

With Pat Han, Technical Director, Skovgaard Energy

Used Scientific Principles:ScaleOptimization
Applied Technology:Energy

1 hour 2 min · Oct 20, 2025

Show Notes

Title

Dynamic Power-to-X: Turning Surplus Wind & Solar into Ammonia.

Introduction

What happens when wind and solar deliver more power than the grid can handle and batteries aren't the answer?

In this episode of Big Ideas Only, host Mikkel Svold sits down with Pat Han, Technical Director at Skovgaard Energy, the company behind what is called the world's first dynamic Power-to-X (PtX) ammonia plant.

Pat explains how "dynamic" PtX rides the ups and downs of wind and solar, turning excess electricity into ammonia. The ammonia process can start and stop quickly — that's why ammonia is a strong first "X" — and how sector coupling can turn rural areas into thriving energy hubs.

In this episode, you'll learn about:

  1. What "dynamic" PtX means and why flexibility is the missing piece for high-renewables grids.
  2. Why hydrogen-to-ammonia enables storage, transport, and existing markets.
  3. How the process works: from water to hydrogen, plus nitrogen to ammonia with high-pressure synthesis.
  4. How PtX is a flexible consumer that balances variability and prevents curtailment.
  5. Why market design, ESG, and value-chain planning matter more than tech.
  6. The social benefits of a PtX plant: jobs, industrial neighbors using excess heat, and revitalising rural regions.
  7. How good local cases unlock permits, public support, and future regulation.

Episode Content

01:20 What is Power-to-X?

05:15 Why new turbines struggle to pencil out without flexible demand

07:04 How a PtX plant can help the system

08:31 Limits of batteries for grid-scale storage

10:35 Why ammonia?

11:56 Maritime propulsion and industrial demands

12:59 Safety and NOx

15:17 Logistics, pipelines, and why ammonia scales sooner in real markets

22:01 How "dynamic" is dynamic? Matching power markets without second-by-second thrash

28:20 Turning stored energy back into electricity

30:17 Will PtX scale fast? Near-term economics, who pays for decarbonization, and the ESG shove

34:35 How anchor users can catalyze infrastructure

36:24 Right-sizing first plants, value-chain partnerships, and passing costs through

39:34 Why real projects create the political runway for better rules

43:09 Jobs, keeping young talent local, and making rural locations an advantage

48:40 Industrial symbiosis and sector coupling

51:11 Strong renewables, grid access, neighbors for heat/power synergies, supportive permitting

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